"4/28/2005 5:57:50 PM","lurkeraudiodave","lol....now that is what I call getting to the event early! :)" "4/28/2005 5:59:39 PM","Crankymonky","What time does it start?" "4/28/2005 6:00:05 PM","Crankymonky","I logged in just to make sure I wouldn't forget" "4/28/2005 6:14:35 PM","lurkeraudiodave","Session starts at 4:30" "4/28/2005 6:14:51 PM","lurkeraudiodave","I need to figure out out to put a clock on this page, so people can see what time it is" "4/28/2005 6:14:57 PM","lurkeraudiodave","for the correct time zone" "4/28/2005 6:15:22 PM","lurkeraudiodave","I'm still at work so I answer questions when I happen to walk by the comeputer" "4/28/2005 6:15:29 PM","lurkeraudiodave","errr computer" "4/28/2005 6:15:46 PM","lurkeraudiodave","so there will be long delays in my responses...." "4/28/2005 6:17:00 PM","Crankymonky","You could make frames to do a clock, and use an xhtml or other clock in the other frame, with this page as one frame" "4/28/2005 6:26:22 PM","Flux","hey hey" "4/28/2005 6:26:24 PM","lurkeraudiodave","I seem to remember someone had a javascript that turned the mouse into a clock" "4/28/2005 6:26:37 PM","lurkeraudiodave","hello flux" "4/28/2005 6:27:01 PM","lurkeraudiodave","Although, I think it used the clock off your individual computer instead thof the clock off the host system" "4/28/2005 6:27:11 PM","Flux","I won't be able to be present most of the chat, but I'll hang in for the log. :)" "4/28/2005 6:27:20 PM","lurkeraudiodave","okay" "4/28/2005 6:27:22 PM","Flux","these days, thursday is t-ball game night" "4/28/2005 6:27:55 PM","lurkeraudiodave","I'm doing alot of lurking myself tonight.....have to units that have to go out yesterday....." "4/28/2005 6:28:20 PM","lurkeraudiodave","And next week there is choir rehersals.......sigh....." "4/28/2005 6:28:36 PM","lurkeraudiodave","tag vs church.....now there is a TUF decision" "4/28/2005 6:29:17 PM","lurkeraudiodave","I miss being single......then it would have been and easy decision.....lol.....TAG!" "4/28/2005 6:29:46 PM","Crankymonky","" "4/28/2005 6:32:37 PM","lurkeraudiodave","but DaBoss says.....God is more important.....she needs to get her priourities straight! :)" "4/28/2005 6:32:53 PM","lurkeraudiodave","(and I need to learn to spell!)" "4/28/2005 6:33:42 PM","lurkeraudiodave","Hey Cranky, did you find the information you needed?" "4/28/2005 6:34:18 PM","Crankymonky","Nah, and Is this the same Dave as the guy running the site?" "4/28/2005 6:34:27 PM","Crankymonky","(Pick one name)" "4/28/2005 6:34:33 PM","lurkeraudiodave","yep....same lunatic" "4/28/2005 6:34:51 PM","Crankymonky","So, I think this is like the 3rd name I've seen you on" "4/28/2005 6:35:11 PM","lurkeraudiodave","lol........told you I was a lunatic" "4/28/2005 6:35:35 PM","Crankymonky","heh" "4/28/2005 6:35:48 PM","lurkeraudiodave","I normally only use various forms of Dave on here" "4/28/2005 6:36:06 PM","lurkeraudiodave","everywhere else I'm either SparkySU1 or DAvid Roman or David R" "4/28/2005 6:36:50 PM","Crankymonky","Whats so bad about having a clock run from the users' machine? Like to keep everyone on one timezone?" "4/28/2005 6:36:53 PM","lurkeraudiodave","long time ago I was known as Reincarnate...but that was back in the days of BBSing, before the Internet became publicly known" "4/28/2005 6:37:33 PM","Crankymonky","Wow, Dreamweaver has an AWFUL FTP client" "4/28/2005 6:37:42 PM","lurkeraudiodave","If it runs off your PC, it shows your time zone......I need a clock that only runs on my time zone, so when I say 4:30, people can log on and see that by my clock its only 4:00, for my time zone" "4/28/2005 6:38:07 PM","lurkeraudiodave","and know the session will start in 30 mins" "4/28/2005 6:38:32 PM","lurkeraudiodave","Time zones are nutz.....espeically when it comes to daylight savings times" "4/28/2005 6:38:50 PM","lurkeraudiodave","since some cities follow it and others don't" "4/28/2005 6:43:13 PM","Crankymonky","time for dinner!" "4/28/2005 6:43:43 PM","lurkeraudiodave","Boy...you eat fast!" "4/28/2005 6:44:19 PM","Flux","hehe" "4/28/2005 6:44:30 PM","lurkeraudiodave","Found a php clock.....now just to figure out how to use it!" "4/28/2005 6:44:44 PM","lurkeraudiodave","hmmmmm wonder if there is a java script clock" "4/28/2005 6:44:52 PM","Crankymonky","Heh, was testing a site, ftp client loaded in this tab" "4/28/2005 6:45:01 PM","Flux","there is, but they usually go by the viewer's time" "4/28/2005 6:45:07 PM","Crankymonky","I think I've seen an xhtml one, easier to implement" "4/28/2005 6:45:21 PM","Crankymonky","not sure who's time though]" "4/28/2005 6:45:49 PM","Flux","whelp, BBL" "4/28/2005 6:48:49 PM","lurkeraudiodave","found one!" "4/28/2005 6:49:09 PM","lurkeraudiodave","hmmmmmmm......lets see if I can just do a cut an d pasete without getting into trouble" "4/28/2005 6:52:07 PM","lurkeraudiodave","DRAT! body code.....arge" "4/28/2005 6:52:31 PM","lurkeraudiodave","not sure I can do xhtml" "4/28/2005 6:55:15 PM","lurkeraudiodave","brb" "4/28/2005 6:56:17 PM","lurkerdaveaudio","welp, that didn't work!" "4/28/2005 7:04:36 PM","lurkerdaveaudio","brb" "4/28/2005 7:05:36 PM","TagFerret","Greetings!" "4/28/2005 7:06:28 PM","audiodave","okay, who is not in the Pacific Time zone?" "4/28/2005 7:06:51 PM","TagFerret","? OK, I just heard someone enter but no screen update -- I think I am broken here, will log out and back in again. BRB!" "4/28/2005 7:07:39 PM","audiodave","hello TagFerret!" "4/28/2005 7:07:47 PM","TagFerret","Hello!" "4/28/2005 7:07:51 PM","Pilot","ohhh, people" "4/28/2005 7:07:58 PM","audiodave","Pilot!" "4/28/2005 7:08:03 PM","TagFerret","Did I just log ina and back outa moment ago?" "4/28/2005 7:08:04 PM","Pilot","YO" "4/28/2005 7:08:12 PM","TagFerret","Hi Pilot" "4/28/2005 7:08:16 PM","TagFerret","And Flux" "4/28/2005 7:08:17 PM","Pilot","hi all" "4/28/2005 7:08:19 PM","audiodave","You need to log off and then on again and tell me what time the clock at the bottom of the chat screen says... :)" "4/28/2005 7:08:21 PM","TagFerret","And CrankyMonkey!" "4/28/2005 7:09:08 PM","TagFerret","I don't have a clock at the bottom... but then again, "I'm Special"..." "4/28/2005 7:09:31 PM","audiodave","Thaz cuz I just loaded the script while you were logging on :)" "4/28/2005 7:09:49 PM","Pilot","so, whats the plan" "4/28/2005 7:09:51 PM","audiodave","Also too, if you have java disabled, you won't see it" "4/28/2005 7:09:51 PM","TagFerret","OK, will try... BRB (again)!" "4/28/2005 7:09:52 PM","Crankymonky","\Yes, monky is here, back" "4/28/2005 7:09:57 PM","Crankymonky","And Im on Eastern Time" "4/28/2005 7:10:07 PM","Crankymonky","Want me to test a clock Dave?" "4/28/2005 7:10:13 PM","audiodave","yes.....please" "4/28/2005 7:10:25 PM","Crankymonky","ah, logout and backin?" "4/28/2005 7:10:29 PM","Crankymonky","and enable java?" "4/28/2005 7:10:33 PM","audiodave","you have to close the window" "4/28/2005 7:10:48 PM","audiodave","enable java before you log on" "4/28/2005 7:11:31 PM","Crankymonky","Where is the clock?" "4/28/2005 7:11:45 PM","audiodave","I see it on my screen" "4/28/2005 7:11:46 PM","TagFerret","I guess the only java I have enabled is what's in my coffee mug... still no clock. Oh well, they always say the same thing anyway (about 2 hours later than I thought it was)." "4/28/2005 7:12:01 PM","Crankymonky","I see no clock" "4/28/2005 7:12:01 PM","audiodave","oh well.......I tried...." "4/28/2005 7:12:10 PM","audiodave","gonna have to try the xhtml thing....." "4/28/2005 7:12:13 PM","Crankymonky","Want me to write up a small frame for ya?" "4/28/2005 7:12:31 PM","audiodave","go for it" "4/28/2005 7:12:51 PM","Crankymonky","Where do you want the clock's frame?" "4/28/2005 7:13:34 PM","audiodave","Well I will put it in the HTML code right after the code that does the chat room......beyond that, I don't know as I know nothing about frames" "4/28/2005 7:15:00 PM","Crankymonky","Hit me up with a link to clock?" "4/28/2005 7:15:22 PM","Crankymonky","Im setting up frames for This chat, lazer-tactical-action-game board, and the clock page" "4/28/2005 7:15:25 PM","audiodave","not clocking a link.........hmmmm" "4/28/2005 7:15:36 PM","Crankymonky","Youll see what Im doing in a sec" "4/28/2005 7:15:51 PM","audiodave","Sorry......but what you just said flew right over my head" "4/28/2005 7:16:06 PM","audiodave",".....didn't even mess up my hair it was so high above me!" "4/28/2005 7:16:14 PM","audiodave","<-------- frame illiterate" "4/28/2005 7:16:40 PM","Crankymonky","" "4/28/2005 7:16:52 PM","audiodave","Just to let everyone know.......I need laser tag trivia questions for next weeks session" "4/28/2005 7:16:57 PM","Crankymonky","http://www.maxxblade.co.uk/clock/" "4/28/2005 7:17:00 PM","audiodave","gonna have a triva competition!" "4/28/2005 7:17:12 PM","Crankymonky","what settings you want for the clock?" "4/28/2005 7:17:23 PM","audiodave","its 5:15 right now" "4/28/2005 7:17:34 PM","audiodave","oop no 5:16" "4/28/2005 7:17:38 PM","TagFerret","I'll see what "The Founders" can come up with..." "4/28/2005 7:17:40 PM","audiodave","arg!" "4/28/2005 7:17:44 PM","Crankymonky","What time zone is that? GMT+ what?" "4/28/2005 7:17:53 PM","audiodave","GMT -08:00" "4/28/2005 7:18:16 PM","Crankymonky","Do you want daylight savings?" "4/28/2005 7:18:23 PM","audiodave","NO! ;)" "4/28/2005 7:19:03 PM","TagFerret","Sore point or something?" "4/28/2005 7:19:14 PM","audiodave","In may we are going to have a Star Wars Trivia Chat session, going to give away some cool Star Wars prizes" "4/28/2005 7:19:38 PM","audiodave","Daylight Savings Time = Mass confusion" "4/28/2005 7:20:10 PM","audiodave","Straight up GMT -08:00 = much less confusion" "4/28/2005 7:20:41 PM","TagFerret","I guess if you live in Greenwich..." "4/28/2005 7:20:43 PM","audiodave","<----- needs to get some books on JAvascript and php programming" "4/28/2005 7:20:52 PM","audiodave","lol" "4/28/2005 7:20:54 PM","Crankymonky","Ok, Im getting there" "4/28/2005 7:20:58 PM","TagFerret","But then I never have a clue what time it is anyway. Just always later than I thought it was." "4/28/2005 7:21:39 PM","Crankymonky","it says its 4:19" "4/28/2005 7:21:47 PM","Crankymonky","you sure your not -7?" "4/28/2005 7:22:08 PM","audiodave","Not according to windows.......but then again I never did trust Bill Gates" "4/28/2005 7:22:36 PM","audiodave","-8:00 is probably the daylight savings time version or something crazy like that" "4/28/2005 7:22:43 PM","TagFerret","Well since DST is presently active, that would make us GMT - 7:00 for the next few months" "4/28/2005 7:23:01 PM","audiodave","Ahhhhhhhh........that makes sense" "4/28/2005 7:23:27 PM","audiodave","see.............daylight savings time = mass confusion!" "4/28/2005 7:24:15 PM","Crankymonky","gotit" "4/28/2005 7:24:15 PM","TagFerret","Hey, there you go Dave -- wht you need is a link on your site that says exactly how many days and hours until the start of the next scheduled chat session. No more GMT - this or EST + that business.." "4/28/2005 7:24:33 PM","Crankymonky","then what did I do all that crap for?" "4/28/2005 7:24:45 PM","Crankymonky","I need to signoff to test the frame" "4/28/2005 7:24:55 PM","Crankymonky","be back (hopefullly) in a second" "4/28/2005 7:24:56 PM","audiodave","I just need a clock .....maybe best wold be GMT straight up....that people can check and figure out what time things will happen by comparing thier clock to the clock on the website :)" "4/28/2005 7:25:44 PM","audiodave","That would work brian, accept I'd have to reset the timer every Thursday :)" "4/28/2005 7:25:51 PM","TagFerret","I dunno... then it gets like the LTAGMB, where the time of message posting as shown on the board doesn't match when I sent it. Always get lost trying to figure that stuff out..." "4/28/2005 7:26:09 PM","audiodave","you and me both!" "4/28/2005 7:26:21 PM","Crankymonky","BITCHES" "4/28/2005 7:26:29 PM","audiodave","where!" "4/28/2005 7:26:35 PM","TagFerret","Who, me?" "4/28/2005 7:26:39 PM","Crankymonky","gotit, clock on the left, message board on bottom, chat on top" "4/28/2005 7:26:40 PM","audiodave","........definately want to avoid them!" "4/28/2005 7:26:53 PM","Crankymonky","I was just showing my happiness" "4/28/2005 7:27:34 PM","TagFerret","OK, I'll log out and see what it does for me then..." "4/28/2005 7:28:19 PM","audiodave","lol........don't I have to put it in my code to get it to work?" "4/28/2005 7:28:38 PM","Crankymonky","No, Im linking to your pages" "4/28/2005 7:28:47 PM","audiodave","???????????????" "4/28/2005 7:28:49 PM","Crankymonky","the board, and a page Im hosting(the clock)" "4/28/2005 7:28:54 PM","Crankymonky","Want me to show you?" "4/28/2005 7:28:57 PM","TagFerret","Hmm.. Nada." "4/28/2005 7:29:04 PM","audiodave","yepers......." "4/28/2005 7:29:17 PM","audiodave","train us old nerds with the new nerdy stuffixes.....lol" "4/28/2005 7:29:29 PM","Crankymonky","oklie doklie" "4/28/2005 7:29:39 PM","Crankymonky","what is a free host I should put it on?" "4/28/2005 7:30:02 PM","audiodave","If you email me the code, I can put it on the code for this page, I think" "4/28/2005 7:30:19 PM","Crankymonky","Ill just put it on my own website" "4/28/2005 7:30:21 PM","audiodave","This page is actually a page in a page in a page.......lol" "4/28/2005 7:30:44 PM","Crankymonky","and soon to be in a page" "4/28/2005 7:30:59 PM","audiodave","lol" "4/28/2005 7:32:01 PM","Crank(2)","http://www.hsusy.com/1slt/framsetchat.html" "4/28/2005 7:32:03 PM","Crank(2)","There" "4/28/2005 7:32:17 PM","Crank(2)","And I can move the frames any way I like" "4/28/2005 7:32:36 PM","Crank(2)","its 5:29:19 over there" "4/28/2005 7:32:56 PM","TagFerret the Impaired","Ooohh, that works..." "4/28/2005 7:33:04 PM","pickles","WOW!" "4/28/2005 7:33:04 PM","Crank(2)","Of course it works..." "4/28/2005 7:33:13 PM","Crank(2)","for some reason, the clock froze on my machine" "4/28/2005 7:33:16 PM","pickles","I want to figure this frames thing out, this is cool" "4/28/2005 7:33:25 PM","pickles","still ticking here" "4/28/2005 7:33:32 PM","Crank(2)","ok" "4/28/2005 7:33:32 PM","TagFerret the Impaired","Yeah, but you forget the "Ferret Factor" -- if I touch it, it stops working." "4/28/2005 7:33:40 PM","Crank(2)","shit\" "4/28/2005 7:33:50 PM","pickles","lost avatars here" "4/28/2005 7:34:05 PM","pickles","except for Audiodave and flux........" "4/28/2005 7:34:06 PM","Crank(2)","I can access them" "4/28/2005 7:34:18 PM","pickles","OOOP Tagferret the Impared just gained fuzzyhood" "4/28/2005 7:34:26 PM","Crank(2)","(he just enabled it)" "4/28/2005 7:34:32 PM","TagFerret the Impaired","Well I think we all logged out and back in a few times and stopped setting them up." "4/28/2005 7:34:45 PM","pickles","lol" "4/28/2005 7:34:50 PM","TagFerret the Impaired","This avatar is always fuzzy" "4/28/2005 7:34:58 PM","pickles","welp, let me back up a screen" "4/28/2005 7:35:07 PM","Crankymonky","All nicely arranged with the message board below:)" "4/28/2005 7:35:11 PM","audiodave","okay, that's better" "4/28/2005 7:35:28 PM","audiodave","I definately need to learn the frames thingy" "4/28/2005 7:35:31 PM","TagFerret the Impaired","OK, now I have both avatars -- Fuzzy" "4/28/2005 7:35:35 PM","TagFerret","and clear" "4/28/2005 7:35:44 PM","audiodave","lol" "4/28/2005 7:35:54 PM","Crankymonky","if you just view my source, you should be able to figure it out" "4/28/2005 7:36:07 PM","audiodave","will do" "4/28/2005 7:36:07 PM","TagFerret","I feel like a schizophrenic now though..." "4/28/2005 7:36:22 PM","audiodave","lol..........split feritalities" "4/28/2005 7:36:27 PM","TagFerret the Impaired","Hah! YOU feel like one? What about me??" "4/28/2005 7:36:28 PM","Crankymonky","Dave, its really pretty simple, and I stole the clock from someone else" "4/28/2005 7:36:43 PM","TagFerret","I don't care about you, you don't exist." "4/28/2005 7:36:46 PM","audiodave","Okay......will check into it......." "4/28/2005 7:36:56 PM","Crankymonky","but I do see the clock you had, however it uses my comp's clock-not eastern" "4/28/2005 7:37:05 PM","TagFerret the Impaired","Thats's what you think... oh, ypou're right! Oops, I'm out here..." "4/28/2005 7:37:06 PM","audiodave","brain hurts too much at the moment to attempt any mental feats.....lol" "4/28/2005 7:37:39 PM","audiodave","yeah......I figured it would......was hoping though.....shows PST on mine" "4/28/2005 7:37:59 PM","audiodave","Lets talk about LASER TAG!" "4/28/2005 7:38:17 PM","audiodave","any news on the LTTO front that you don't have to kill us for after you tell us BRian?" "4/28/2005 7:39:44 PM","TagFerret","Not much, I am working on last-minute code updates for TMB." "4/28/2005 7:39:56 PM","audiodave","okay" "4/28/2005 7:40:19 PM","audiodave","I'm starting to wonder if my emails to Jeff and Wayne are getting filtered, never get any responses" "4/28/2005 7:40:26 PM","TagFerret","Just got done fiddling with lenses, had 850 feet in daylight before I realised had the wrong lens set. Now get to do it all over again..." "4/28/2005 7:40:41 PM","audiodave","EEEEEEEEEEEEK" "4/28/2005 7:40:54 PM","TagFerret","I thought it was too good to be true..." "4/28/2005 7:41:12 PM","audiodave","keep the 850' lense........!" "4/28/2005 7:41:13 PM","Crankymonky","I was wondering what the LTTO's IR-LED's angle of half intensity was as well as its frequency." "4/28/2005 7:41:21 PM","audiodave","unless the other one is better ;)" "4/28/2005 7:41:43 PM","audiodave","Cranky is thinking of doing his own lense assmebly....." "4/28/2005 7:41:44 PM","TagFerret","+/-8 degrees, 940nm. We modulate data onto a 37.9 KHz 50% duty cycle carrier." "4/28/2005 7:42:04 PM","Crankymonky","karp, small deg." "4/28/2005 7:42:07 PM","TagFerret","Hiya PartyTagger!" "4/28/2005 7:42:19 PM","audiodave","hey Party Tagger!" "4/28/2005 7:42:20 PM","partytagger","Hi everyone" "4/28/2005 7:42:29 PM","Crankymonky","BOYCOTT" "4/28/2005 7:42:30 PM","Crankymonky","http://www.hsusy.com/1slt/framsetchat.html" "4/28/2005 7:42:37 PM","Crankymonky","Partytagger, do it" "4/28/2005 7:42:49 PM","audiodave","Damn.......forgot to fix your avatar........" "4/28/2005 7:43:02 PM","Crank(2)","what is the /nick command?" "4/28/2005 7:43:06 PM","audiodave","is that the one that copied Flux's site?" "4/28/2005 7:43:06 PM","TagFerret","It's how we manage to maintain manufacturing tolerances -- tighter IR-LED beam angle = less finicky distance between IR-LED and lens, can use a smaller lens, other good stuff from manufacturing perspective." "4/28/2005 7:43:46 PM","audiodave","you didn't get bumped did you party?" "4/28/2005 7:44:01 PM","partytagger","looks like I was" "4/28/2005 7:44:29 PM","audiodave","hmmm.......if anyone gets bumped, please let me know......they were supposed to have fixed that......" "4/28/2005 7:44:46 PM","partytagger","I tried to follow the link and...." "4/28/2005 7:44:52 PM","audiodave","Oh," "4/28/2005 7:44:58 PM","audiodave","Right click" "4/28/2005 7:45:09 PM","audiodave","Then open in a new window" "4/28/2005 7:45:14 PM","Crank(2)","or tab" "4/28/2005 7:45:32 PM","Crank(2)","How do I change my name?" "4/28/2005 7:45:44 PM","audiodave","logg off, log on" "4/28/2005 7:45:50 PM","partytagger","Can someone repost since it is no longer showing on my chat view" "4/28/2005 7:45:54 PM","Crank(2)","argh, IRC has /nick command" "4/28/2005 7:46:07 PM","Crank(2)","The frames?" "4/28/2005 7:46:08 PM","Crank(2)","http://www.hsusy.com/1slt/framsetchat.html" "4/28/2005 7:46:35 PM","audiodave","http://www.hsusy.com/1slt/framsetchat.html" "4/28/2005 7:46:39 PM","audiodave","lol" "4/28/2005 7:47:38 PM","Crankymonky","C:/Dos/" "4/28/2005 7:47:43 PM","audiodave","still need to strip the audo of of the "WHAT DO YOU MEAN I:M OUT" video" "4/28/2005 7:47:43 PM","Crankymonky","C:/Dos/Run" "4/28/2005 7:47:47 PM","Crankymonky","Run/Dos/run" "4/28/2005 7:48:12 PM","audiodave","there are no / commands in this chat room.....its a java applet" "4/28/2005 7:48:16 PM","Crankymonky","I know" "4/28/2005 7:48:26 PM","Crankymonky","well, I do know" "4/28/2005 7:48:30 PM","Crankymonky","now" "4/28/2005 7:49:43 PM","Crankymonky","Dave, is this what you were thinking in terms of Clock and chat in 1?" "4/28/2005 7:50:41 PM","audiodave","ummmmmmm........if you are reffering to the clock at the bottom...no...that was just a quick test" "4/28/2005 7:50:52 PM","audiodave","What you have set up would work" "4/28/2005 7:51:12 PM","audiodave","Although I'd put the clock on the chat room entrance page" "4/28/2005 7:51:32 PM","audiodave","hey Party Tagger, any new news?" "4/28/2005 7:52:07 PM","audiodave","That way you wouldn't have to log all the way in to the chat room to check the clock" "4/28/2005 7:52:25 PM","partytagger","New news?" "4/28/2005 7:52:34 PM","audiodave","just trying to think of a way to make time zones less of an issue....." "4/28/2005 7:52:46 PM","Crankymonky","You shouldnt have to" "4/28/2005 7:52:49 PM","audiodave","Just looking for stuff for the news Update ;)" "4/28/2005 7:53:13 PM","Crankymonky","If you go to the site, the clock is loaded independently of the chat" "4/28/2005 7:53:31 PM","audiodave","which site Cranky?" "4/28/2005 7:54:04 PM","Crankymonky","http://www.hsusy.com/1slt/framsetchat.html" "4/28/2005 7:54:12 PM","Crankymonky","the clock is shown before logging in" "4/28/2005 7:54:12 PM","partytagger","We have just started getting responses to our add in the locals...looks like we will be busy" "4/28/2005 7:54:37 PM","Crankymonky","Partytagger, need someone to help over the summer for community service hours?" "4/28/2005 7:54:40 PM","audiodave",".......am on the prowl for website updates, sales, new pictures, advertising info, new ideas, new products.....that sort of thing" "4/28/2005 7:55:12 PM","audiodave","Where did you advertise Party?" "4/28/2005 7:55:26 PM","partytagger","we might do if the first few day continue at the current rate" "4/28/2005 7:55:34 PM","audiodave","<--- needs to work on strumming up more local business" "4/28/2005 7:55:54 PM","Crankymonky","/me wishes you the best of luck" "4/28/2005 7:56:22 PM","partytagger","We put adds in two monthly rags..The Baltimore chile and Marland Family" "4/28/2005 7:56:33 PM","partytagger","chile = child" "4/28/2005 7:57:18 PM","partytagger","Only the Baltimore one is out, but the phone has been hot" "4/28/2005 7:58:14 PM","partytagger","We have to see how much will turn into real business" "4/28/2005 7:58:58 PM","Crankymonky","Tagferret, what lens is in LTTO guns?" "4/28/2005 7:59:04 PM","audiodave","I was thinking of putting an ad in the local family entertainment zines..." "4/28/2005 7:59:28 PM","audiodave","But I didn't know if anyone ever really reads the ads in them...was it a big ad or a small one?" "4/28/2005 7:59:39 PM","partytagger","I will keep you up to date on the response" "4/28/2005 8:00:27 PM","audiodave","Thanks....debating on where to put the advertising budget this summer, was thinking of trying local instead of national advertising" "4/28/2005 8:00:44 PM","partytagger","The add is avaiable from our inFORMation page - it is in color but we had it printed in b&w" "4/28/2005 8:00:55 PM","audiodave","national gets alot of website hits, but doesnt' seem to have a good conversion ratio...but it just might be the market" "4/28/2005 8:01:13 PM","audiodave","hmmmmm......brb (checking out ad.)" "4/28/2005 8:01:23 PM","partytagger","As we discussed in email we are a local business..so an easy decision" "4/28/2005 8:01:48 PM","Crankymonky","Anyone that didn't close their browser, what were the LED specs tagferret posted, or Dave if he feels like looking in the logs" "4/28/2005 8:02:16 PM","TagFerret","Cranky, it's a custom-designed lens for the apllication. Nothing fancy, just planar on the rear side and spherical on the front. Somrthing like a 2.5" focal length." "4/28/2005 8:02:43 PM","audiodave","nice........simple but informative" "4/28/2005 8:02:50 PM","Crankymonky","magnification? Or will you make me go calculate it?" "4/28/2005 8:03:09 PM","audiodave","let me look it up Cranky.......just a sec" "4/28/2005 8:03:15 PM","TagFerret","+/- 8 Degrees, 940nm. Data is modulated onto a 37.9KHz carrioer (50% duty cycle)." "4/28/2005 8:03:27 PM","Crankymonky","*saves*" "4/28/2005 8:03:38 PM","TagFerret","You'll have to calculate it cranky, that's not a spec we use." "4/28/2005 8:03:45 PM","Crankymonky","no prob" "4/28/2005 8:04:27 PM","partytagger","The white space made it stand out from the other adds" "4/28/2005 8:05:44 PM","audiodave","+/-8 degrees, 940nm. We modulate data onto a 37.9 KHz 50% duty cycle carrier." "4/28/2005 8:05:44 PM","Crankymonky","Does 2 lens have a diverging effect due to the added magnification?" "4/28/2005 8:05:55 PM","Crankymonky","Dave, ferrett posted it lol" "4/28/2005 8:06:56 PM","audiodave","What size did you use.......1/8, quarter ?" "4/28/2005 8:07:06 PM","audiodave","^^^ for party tagger" "4/28/2005 8:07:41 PM","TagFerret","The two are set up on parallel axes, one is transmit and one receive." "4/28/2005 8:08:03 PM","TagFerret","The receive is de-focussed just a bit so that it has wider firld of view." "4/28/2005 8:08:58 PM","TagFerret","This makes it easier to "sniff" for enemy beacons, and more likely to hold on-taget long enough to get confirmation of hit. But abviously, also means the lock-on channel does not have the range of the transmit channel." "4/28/2005 8:09:03 PM","partytagger","Two different sizes 3x3.5 inches and the other was 3.75x4 in ..the cheap ones" "4/28/2005 8:10:06 PM","audiodave","Wow, add that size here runs about $150" "4/28/2005 8:11:16 PM","audiodave","Although that was for a 3 color ad" "4/28/2005 8:11:37 PM","partytagger","$~300 here" "4/28/2005 8:11:55 PM","audiodave","Okay........I will not complain then! :)" "4/28/2005 8:12:04 PM","partytagger","for B&W in the better rags" "4/28/2005 8:12:59 PM","audiodave","Need to finish building blockers first though" "4/28/2005 8:13:12 PM","partytagger","We are just getting started and hope to not have to continue with the adds as word of mouth etc. takes off" "4/28/2005 8:13:59 PM","audiodave","Nationally, the word of mouth has been working great for me......recently ROTC's have started bouncing the word around about us...." "4/28/2005 8:14:03 PM","partytagger","We have 30 in our set now and I might have to double that if we get two crew going" "4/28/2005 8:14:40 PM","audiodave","I havn't done any local business yet, and shipping blockers would be insanely expensive......so I han't had a need for them yet" "4/28/2005 8:14:55 PM","audiodave",".......but I'm tired of loosing the gear for 2 weeks for 1 rental due to shipping" "4/28/2005 8:15:27 PM","partytagger","If you note the blockers size they are designed to go UPS" "4/28/2005 8:15:35 PM","audiodave","we rent enogh to cover the costs of the website, but I'd like to start making some extra cash flow" "4/28/2005 8:16:14 PM","audiodave","yeah...but even so.......30 of them through the mail would be almost as expensive as just buying the material.....lol" "4/28/2005 8:16:34 PM","Crankymonky","Ciao, bed time" "4/28/2005 8:16:36 PM","partytagger","I do not know your demographics but we are real lucky here in Howard County" "4/28/2005 8:16:38 PM","Crankymonky","sick" "4/28/2005 8:16:38 PM","audiodave","Not to mention, I have a teenage daughter who needs a job..." "4/28/2005 8:17:00 PM","Crankymonky","you put the transcript up on the board?" "4/28/2005 8:17:02 PM","audiodave","night Cranky......hope you feel better in the morning" "4/28/2005 8:17:12 PM","Crankymonky","thanks" "4/28/2005 8:17:24 PM","partytagger","You still need to make them and that is time consuming" "4/28/2005 8:17:28 PM","audiodave","Will do, it will be on the CHAT ROOMS page" "4/28/2005 8:17:42 PM","partytagger","Get well soon" "4/28/2005 8:17:44 PM","audiodave","party t - true" "4/28/2005 8:18:16 PM","Crankymonky","ok, thanks, if you need a copy of the frames/clock page's html, I can email them, just leave me a message in the irc.rizon.net IRC channel" "4/28/2005 8:18:17 PM","audiodave","Most of our renters just go to their local furniture and appliance stores and get large boxes and pieces of foam" "4/28/2005 8:18:40 PM","partytagger","That works for one off games -KISS" "4/28/2005 8:19:19 PM","audiodave","....which is pretty much what they are doing.......but I figure for local business, I'll need to make some blockers up..." "4/28/2005 8:19:50 PM","partytagger","We are tapping the younger age group at the moment, but we are starting to look at other groups" "4/28/2005 8:20:42 PM","partytagger","The kids love it, we have been supprised by how much excitment is generated" "4/28/2005 8:20:59 PM","audiodave","I have an airsoft group that would like to just rent the blockers when I get them made....not sure I want to do that though, as there is a huge legal liability with airsoft, and I'm sure some slick lawyer would figure a way to put the blame on the blockers "you should have had foam on the blockers to keep the bullets from rickochetting off of them" - even though your not supposed to shoot at people with airsoft guns in the first place!" "4/28/2005 8:21:30 PM","audiodave","I was thinking of making a castle and a fort facade that could be rented for younger kid parties" "4/28/2005 8:21:50 PM","partytagger","Note the disclaimer on the TagParty barrier doc..Liability is a real problem" "4/28/2005 8:22:02 PM","audiodave","yeah...." "4/28/2005 8:22:08 PM","audiodave","its a shame ......" "4/28/2005 8:22:22 PM","audiodave","but CYA is the name of the game in this country" "4/28/2005 8:22:44 PM","audiodave","I was also thinking of making a maze that could be quickly put together" "4/28/2005 8:22:46 PM","partytagger","If things go well we plan to screen print our barriers with different designs" "4/28/2005 8:23:08 PM","audiodave","I found these groove hinges that seem to work well with the corroplast, I'll have to send you a piece" "4/28/2005 8:23:12 PM","partytagger","Wind wind wind" "4/28/2005 8:23:49 PM","audiodave","I've done mazes before with just cardboard, if you set it up right, they withstand wind pretty well" "4/28/2005 8:23:59 PM","partytagger","Thanks" "4/28/2005 8:24:09 PM","audiodave","I used to work for a company that made $80,000 haunted houses and attractions that go around them" "4/28/2005 8:24:11 PM","partytagger","Is there a web link for the hinges" "4/28/2005 8:24:30 PM","audiodave","I havn't found them on the web yet.....found them at a local plastics store" "4/28/2005 8:24:37 PM","partytagger","Cool, lot of fun learning" "4/28/2005 8:24:53 PM","audiodave","will try to see if I can find out where they get them from ..." "4/28/2005 8:25:27 PM","partytagger","I just make the hinges with the coroplast as described in the document" "4/28/2005 8:25:30 PM","audiodave","They are selling them for $12 for an 10' run, which is a bit expensive for an extruded plastic piece" "4/28/2005 8:25:47 PM","partytagger","Are these the plastic bits that fit into the flutes?" "4/28/2005 8:25:59 PM","partytagger","Nope not them" "4/28/2005 8:26:19 PM","partytagger","zip ties ar $..." "4/28/2005 8:26:20 PM","audiodave","no, the coroplast fits in a channel" "4/28/2005 8:26:43 PM","audiodave","I wouldn't use zip ties.......too much waste...have you ever considered bungee cords?" "4/28/2005 8:26:59 PM","partytagger","Sound interesting" "4/28/2005 8:27:27 PM","partytagger","Too much waste?" "4/28/2005 8:27:43 PM","audiodave","somewhere on the internet is a place where you can buy them (bungee cords) in bulk, the kind like you find for putting the tarp on cheap carports" "4/28/2005 8:28:02 PM","audiodave","do you cut the zip ties to fold down the blockers?" "4/28/2005 8:28:09 PM","audiodave","(havn't fully read the article yet)" "4/28/2005 8:28:22 PM","partytagger","You have lost me?" "4/28/2005 8:28:57 PM","audiodave","......lol........don't feel bad, I loose myself all the time" "4/28/2005 8:29:24 PM","partytagger","The zip ties form the hinge with the coroplast" "4/28/2005 8:29:58 PM","audiodave","I'm probably mis-understanding the use of the zip-ties....I was under the impression that you had to cut the zip ties to take the blockers back apart" "4/28/2005 8:30:05 PM","partytagger","5 zip ties per hinge" "4/28/2005 8:30:35 PM","partytagger","No No LOL Must right the doc again obviously not clear" "4/28/2005 8:30:35 PM","audiodave","<-------- needs to fully read that article" "4/28/2005 8:30:36 PM","partytagger","lol" "4/28/2005 8:30:59 PM","audiodave","I just quckily browsed through the article so far" "4/28/2005 8:31:57 PM","partytagger","I have left it long enough for me to go back to it with fresh eyes, I will probably find a lot of problems with ity now" "4/28/2005 8:32:11 PM","audiodave","For now I was planning on using reinforced duct tape hinges. But my blocker design is much more simple (probably not near as rugged) then what you are doing" "4/28/2005 8:32:48 PM","audiodave","Cathie will be reading it this weekend, as we are going to attempt to try and make one of yours...." "4/28/2005 8:32:59 PM","audiodave","it will be a good test of the article," "4/28/2005 8:33:52 PM","audiodave","Tag Ferret, you still with us?" "4/28/2005 8:35:54 PM","TagFerret","Yes, was a way but now back" "4/28/2005 8:36:53 PM","TagFerret","Hiya LB!" "4/28/2005 8:36:55 PM","Lazerbait","hmmm funny I thought chat was over" "4/28/2005 8:37:00 PM","audiodave","Hey LB!" "4/28/2005 8:37:00 PM","Lazerbait","but yet here we are" "4/28/2005 8:37:13 PM","Lazerbait","Hi ta D and B" "4/28/2005 8:37:18 PM","TagFerret","We do not have lives, we are Lazer Tag nuts...." "4/28/2005 8:37:39 PM","audiodave","you can say that again!" "4/28/2005 8:38:00 PM","Lazerbait","who is up for a bremerbattle first weekend of June?" "4/28/2005 8:38:37 PM","TagFerret","Sounds like fun, but I doubt I can make it. So far behind schedule now it is not funny." "4/28/2005 8:38:55 PM","audiodave","You would do that to me LB!" "4/28/2005 8:39:03 PM","audiodave","Will do our best to be there!" "4/28/2005 8:39:05 PM","Lazerbait","well keep first weekend of oct open.. I think worden game then" "4/28/2005 8:39:26 PM","audiodave","oooooooooo.........make it a hallo tag event" "4/28/2005 8:39:45 PM","TagFerret","Will do, that time frame is more reasonable for me. All new gear will be in production by then, little for me to do." "4/28/2005 8:39:48 PM","Lazerbait","now big questions for bremerbattle" "4/28/2005 8:40:13 PM","Lazerbait","ess or wow? I will put it to a vote on the yahoo page" "4/28/2005 8:40:25 PM","audiodave","you mean ess or LTTO?" "4/28/2005 8:40:26 PM","Lazerbait","I am sorry.. ess or ltto I mean" "4/28/2005 8:40:29 PM","Lazerbait","yes" "4/28/2005 8:40:45 PM","audiodave","That is definately a tough descision.........." "4/28/2005 8:40:50 PM","TagFerret","lol, was having to wipe away atear... (j/k!)" "4/28/2005 8:40:52 PM","partytagger",""all new gear"...Have we missed something other than the MBlaster" "4/28/2005 8:40:53 PM","audiodave","I'm debating on selling our 18 ESS guns......" "4/28/2005 8:40:56 PM","Lazerbait","goodness can you see us triyng to use old wow stuff?" "4/28/2005 8:41:54 PM","TagFerret","All-New gear = stuff to come after TMB, for shelf presence Spring '06." "4/28/2005 8:41:56 PM","audiodave","I have 7 Starlyte pro's hanging in my garage and 20 FXonics WoW sensors ready to go! ;)" "4/28/2005 8:42:33 PM","partytagger","After TMB can you hint a bit louder lol" "4/28/2005 8:42:54 PM","Lazerbait","who is parttagger?" "4/28/2005 8:43:03 PM","partytagger","Peter" "4/28/2005 8:43:12 PM","audiodave","Even the slightest chance we might See some TMB's before October 1st?" "4/28/2005 8:43:17 PM","Lazerbait","Peter M?" "4/28/2005 8:43:38 PM","audiodave","Party tagger runs a new LTTO rental business .......not Peter M" "4/28/2005 8:43:40 PM","partytagger","No in Maryland - tagParty" "4/28/2005 8:43:46 PM","Lazerbait","ah ok" "4/28/2005 8:43:57 PM","Lazerbait","how is LTTO holding up for you?" "4/28/2005 8:44:05 PM","audiodave","see what you miss when you don't come to the chat sessions LB!" "4/28/2005 8:44:07 PM","audiodave",";)" "4/28/2005 8:44:16 PM","Lazerbait","hey I have to work ya know" "4/28/2005 8:44:24 PM","Lazerbait","so I can get a 5th car,.." "4/28/2005 8:44:27 PM","audiodave","lol......just giving you a hard time ;)" "4/28/2005 8:44:56 PM","TagFerret","Sry guys, had to jump away a moment, let me look back over chat" "4/28/2005 8:45:28 PM","audiodave","no problems TF" "4/28/2005 8:45:31 PM","Lazerbait","Yeah Dave I am going to sell some more of my ESS gear on ebay for a few extra bucks" "4/28/2005 8:45:46 PM","audiodave","I guess its time to just dump the ESS stuff" "4/28/2005 8:46:06 PM","Lazerbait","Just do not see the need.. however I do need some sensor housings from some guy that said he would send one and never did" "4/28/2005 8:46:33 PM","Lazerbait","well not all of it. I want to have enought o hold a game but no more" "4/28/2005 8:46:37 PM","audiodave","Lol........they are in the pile of things cathie is supposed to mail out this week.......grin" "4/28/2005 8:46:47 PM","Lazerbait","oh blame her" "4/28/2005 8:46:52 PM","Lazerbait","some man you are" "4/28/2005 8:46:58 PM","Lazerbait","picking on the girl" "4/28/2005 8:47:16 PM","audiodave","........well, can't totally blame her....I keep making the pile bigger when she is not looking........grin" "4/28/2005 8:47:24 PM","TagFerret","There is a decent chance I can bring some TMB's to the Worden game, they would be final pre-production." "4/28/2005 8:47:55 PM","TagFerret","But official shelf presence looks like it will be just starting at the beginning of October." "4/28/2005 8:48:03 PM","TagFerret","Major presence by 01 NOV or so." "4/28/2005 8:48:30 PM","TagFerret","Wal Mart will probably have some early though, hard to say for sure but they like to rush things." "4/28/2005 8:48:32 PM","audiodave","Okay, just thought I'd ask" "4/28/2005 8:48:46 PM","Lazerbait","OK guys.. need some food" "4/28/2005 8:48:56 PM","partytagger","and the new stuff in the Spring? Not letting this one go lol" "4/28/2005 8:48:56 PM","Lazerbait","I will check back to see if you are all still here" "4/28/2005 8:49:06 PM","audiodave","We can bring a ton of hot dogs...... :)" "4/28/2005 8:49:20 PM","audiodave","and a mini stove to cook them on" "4/28/2005 8:50:04 PM","audiodave","DRAT, thought he was talking about the October event" "4/28/2005 8:50:06 PM","audiodave","lol" "4/28/2005 8:50:16 PM","TagFerret","Take care, LB -- I will be logging out soon so talk to you l8r" "4/28/2005 8:50:52 PM","audiodave","lol Party Tagger, Tag Ferret loves teasing us......but you'l have to work sneakier then that to trip him up enough to where he will actually tell you something useful ;)" "4/28/2005 8:51:07 PM","audiodave","<--------- needs to go home soon......." "4/28/2005 8:51:18 PM","partytagger","wasn't trying to trip him up" "4/28/2005 8:51:41 PM","audiodave","then you won't get any more information then what he's already given......lol" "4/28/2005 8:51:45 PM","TagFerret","lol, really guys -- just trying to assure everyone that there is more good gear coming all the time!" "4/28/2005 8:51:50 PM","audiodave","(just kidding around)" "4/28/2005 8:52:00 PM","partytagger","Just having some fun seeing jump" "4/28/2005 8:52:09 PM","partytagger","every time i posted" "4/28/2005 8:52:34 PM","audiodave","I wonder what happened to pilot" "4/28/2005 8:52:50 PM","partytagger","Pilot?" "4/28/2005 8:53:10 PM","audiodave","He was on here from about 3:30pm on...then logged off aourn 4:$5" "4/28/2005 8:53:14 PM","audiodave","4:45" "4/28/2005 8:53:22 PM","audiodave","and never came back" "4/28/2005 8:53:28 PM","partytagger","Was he from the UK?" "4/28/2005 8:53:37 PM","audiodave","No.......Georgia" "4/28/2005 8:53:50 PM","audiodave","he runs the Middle Georgia Laser Tag League" "4/28/2005 8:54:03 PM","partytagger","Yes, he was on last week" "4/28/2005 8:54:14 PM","audiodave","wanted to talk to him about setting up a TagCon SouthEast" "4/28/2005 8:54:17 PM","partytagger","Memory is the first thing to go" "4/28/2005 8:54:22 PM","audiodave","lol" "4/28/2005 8:56:31 PM","audiodave","well, I'm going to head home before the next batch of peeps start logging on" "4/28/2005 8:56:54 PM","partytagger","Is anyone having problems with the LTTO locking up in games?" "4/28/2005 8:57:06 PM","partytagger","Safe journey" "4/28/2005 8:58:07 PM","TagFerret","I have not heard any reports about the Deluxes, though a couple peole have said a Drone had given them a problem not firing when it should, or firing when trigger was not pressed. Did you have a problem with gear?" "4/28/2005 8:58:37 PM","partytagger","I think it could be the battery jingle" "4/28/2005 8:58:41 PM","audiodave","<---- sticking around for this topic" "4/28/2005 8:59:07 PM","partytagger","We have had a few units with problems in hosted games" "4/28/2005 8:59:11 PM","TagFerret","That is the most likely cause. Have you tried my little wedge thingy to keep the batteries in place?" "4/28/2005 8:59:17 PM","TagFerret","Deluxes or Drones?" "4/28/2005 8:59:44 PM","partytagger","About to do it did you really mean 0.075" "4/28/2005 8:59:52 PM","partytagger","Drones" "4/28/2005 9:00:29 PM","TagFerret","Is it a full lock-up (screen display freezes, buttons do nothing, etc.) or just a trigger not working right?" "4/28/2005 9:00:40 PM","partytagger","full lock up" "4/28/2005 9:01:05 PM","partytagger","have to reset" "4/28/2005 9:01:19 PM","TagFerret","Then it is most likely batteries. 0.075" is what it took on the Deluxes, using Enegizer Max batteries." "4/28/2005 9:01:36 PM","partytagger","jingle?" "4/28/2005 9:01:48 PM","TagFerret","The Drones, it can help to put a few thicknesses of paper between the battery door and the battery tray, to push the tray in a bit further." "4/28/2005 9:01:56 PM","audiodave","Ive only seen that once on a deluxe.....and it was right after a kid triped with the gun and banged it on concrete pretty hard........after a press of the reset button, it was fine ......most likely battery jiggle" "4/28/2005 9:02:39 PM","TagFerret","Dave, that's been my experience too" "4/28/2005 9:02:49 PM","partytagger","Your pic look bigger than 0.075"" "4/28/2005 9:03:24 PM","audiodave","Welp, gonna head home...be back on in about 30 mins" "4/28/2005 9:03:29 PM","TagFerret","In the Deluxe, the tray sits all the way forward the way it should, so just have to stop the batteries from moving in the tray." "4/28/2005 9:03:33 PM","TagFerret","But on the Drones" "4/28/2005 9:03:56 PM","TagFerret","The battery tray pusher ribs (on the inside of the door) could stand to be about 1mm longer." "4/28/2005 9:04:07 PM","TagFerret","So, a piece of paper sometimes helps them." "4/28/2005 9:04:43 PM","partytagger","Ok I think I will get some rubber or sponge for the door" "4/28/2005 9:04:50 PM","TagFerret","I think the thickness looks bigger 'cuz of the close-up and shadows. But they were made from a 0.060" glued to a 0/015" styrene sheets." "4/28/2005 9:05:09 PM","TagFerret","0.015"" "4/28/2005 9:05:38 PM","partytagger","at 0.075 I think I will try two plastic punch hole protectors cut in half" "4/28/2005 9:06:10 PM","partytagger","or one folded in half" "4/28/2005 9:06:54 PM","TagFerret","Hmm... that might not be more than about 0.016" -- they are not much thicker than paper, which is only 0.004" thick or so." "4/28/2005 9:07:08 PM","partytagger","Is there a difference in size between Duracell and Enigizers" "4/28/2005 9:08:00 PM","TagFerret","I don't know off the top of my head. Duracell and Energizer fight a constant battle for capacity, so they are both probably about as big as you can possibly make a AA without exceeding the official specs." "4/28/2005 9:08:51 PM","partytagger","I really need to work in metric, the small stuff confuses me, if it is smaller than an inch I can't visulize it at all" "4/28/2005 9:09:29 PM","partytagger","Any experience with Duracell ultra's" "4/28/2005 9:09:39 PM","TagFerret","lol, I know what you mean -- I do PCB layouts and always have stuff either too crowded or lots of empty space I didn't mean to leave. I'd be lost without my calipers!" "4/28/2005 9:10:20 PM","TagFerret","I have had good results with Duracell Ultras, functionally wise. But I don't know if the spacer thingy has to change size for them." "4/28/2005 9:10:50 PM","partytagger","I was brought up in the UK on metric It has taken me 11 years to understand if it is hot or cold out when they talk F" "4/28/2005 9:11:46 PM","partytagger","I have both types in our taggers. Unscientifically because of different use the Duracell are better" "4/28/2005 9:12:05 PM","partytagger","IMHO" "4/28/2005 9:12:58 PM","TagFerret","I have always liked uracells myself, but more because I didn't like Energizer's ads... functionally found them so close that I was never worried about the minor differences. But like I said, they are constantly battling." "4/28/2005 9:14:30 PM","partytagger","measuring voltages, which by the way is a pain, shows that the Duracell remain at a higher V" "4/28/2005 9:16:12 PM","TagFerret","Hmm... interesting. Have you checked to see if they are capable of holding up under the peak loads as well?" "4/28/2005 9:17:33 PM","partytagger","No, I am purely checking the V to determin when to change batteries. I am doing this with the pack out of the tagger" "4/28/2005 9:17:46 PM","partytagger","Is this incorrect?" "4/28/2005 9:19:54 PM","TagFerret","It is probably a reasonable approach -- essentially all I do with my own gear for playing (I use the Radio Shack battery tester, which is just a voltmeter). For serious testing I make sure tha batteries do not collapse under the peak load as IR is generated. This has to be checked on an oscilloscope while operating. But I don't do much comparison between brands, over the life cycle of the batteries (I leave that to the Hasbro team)." "4/28/2005 9:20:34 PM","TagFerret","But that's engineering testing, not field-function testing, so it''s a different thing we are looking for." "4/28/2005 9:22:14 PM","partytagger","I have a fluke meter but would like to check the voltages without removing the batteries" "4/28/2005 9:22:52 PM","partytagger","I have used a converted HUD lead to measure of the port" "4/28/2005 9:23:53 PM","TagFerret","That's a great idea -- you should post it to the Yahoo! group!" "4/28/2005 9:23:59 PM","partytagger","But by the time you unscrew the rumble pack you might as well take out the batteries..especially if they need to potentially be changed anyway" "4/28/2005 9:24:27 PM","TagFerret","True... but if you don't have the rumble pack on, it's a great way to check without opening it up." "4/28/2005 9:24:45 PM","partytagger","All my taggers have the rumble port" "4/28/2005 9:25:16 PM","partytagger","The kids love them, especially since they are fixed" "4/28/2005 9:25:23 PM","TagFerret","One of these days I'm going to finish my darned battery-voltage-indicator mod. That's the problem with WORKING on LTTO, there's no time left to PLAY with it any more! lol" "4/28/2005 9:25:45 PM","TagFerret",""fixed" -- snipped the FIRE signal line?" "4/28/2005 9:25:46 PM","partytagger","fixed like a cat, cut the brown wire" "4/28/2005 9:25:54 PM","partytagger","yip" "4/28/2005 9:26:34 PM","partytagger","But you will sone with everything done for spring lol" "4/28/2005 9:26:34 PM","TagFerret","Have you had any of the range problems that were discussed regarding having the TP on? And if so, did the "fix" correct the problem?" "4/28/2005 9:27:05 PM","partytagger","Did the cut before I was aware of the problem" "4/28/2005 9:27:44 PM","partytagger","Our trial TagParties told us that it was too confusing for the younger kids" "4/28/2005 9:27:52 PM","TagFerret","But with the cut, no range issues? Or do you not use them at long enough ranges to have problems either way?" "4/28/2005 9:28:02 PM","partytagger","They want to know when they were hit" "4/28/2005 9:28:23 PM","TagFerret","Personally, I was of the same opinion -- I did not WANT the TP to rumble on fioring, but I got overruled on that design decision..." "4/28/2005 9:28:41 PM","partytagger","We typically are in a 100' x100' area so no problems with range" "4/28/2005 9:29:16 PM","TagFerret","Still, IIRC some were saying the TP (not fixed) made it hard to get tags in at 70 feet and beyond." "4/28/2005 9:29:29 PM","TagFerret","So that indicates the fixing does help the issue." "4/28/2005 9:30:05 PM","partytagger","Guess I was lucky" "4/28/2005 9:30:29 PM","partytagger","Or the Kids knew more than me , which is not unusual" "4/28/2005 9:31:11 PM","partytagger","Carefull some of the kids can't aim" "4/28/2005 9:31:42 PM","TagFerret","lol, I know the feeling -- my nephew seems to know more about how to work LTTO than I do, he is always working me over whenever we play. Seems to make it his pet project to tag me out first regardless of how many other players there are..." "4/28/2005 9:32:18 PM","partytagger","so I am not sure if they are getting misses due to aiming or the taggers" "4/28/2005 9:32:49 PM","partytagger","I will do some testing at our next gig on the weekend" "4/28/2005 9:33:45 PM","TagFerret","I imagine that is especially true in your business -- ALWAYS first-time players. With me it is getting so I can't find any kids who haven't played yet... also hard to find adults who are willing!" "4/28/2005 9:34:15 PM","partytagger","The adults join in our games and love it" "4/28/2005 9:35:17 PM","Lazerbait","ok back" "4/28/2005 9:35:33 PM","TagFerret","I always find adults have fun once they decide to give it a try. Which is easier at parties and such. But most adults don't seem interested when just asked out of the blue if they'd like to come for some LT games. Shame, they don't know what they are missing! :)" "4/28/2005 9:35:41 PM","partytagger","but yes we are nearly alway first timers, but I hope we get some repeat business from players at other parties" "4/28/2005 9:36:01 PM","TagFerret","Welcome back LB" "4/28/2005 9:36:17 PM","partytagger","The adults watch and you can see that they want to join in" "4/28/2005 9:36:44 PM","partytagger","If you get the Kids to invite them they jump in and have fun" "4/28/2005 9:37:32 PM","TagFerret","Yeah, it seems like adults are forgetting how to play these days. Either that or I was lucky and grew up with a lot of playfull adults." "4/28/2005 9:39:25 PM","partytagger","TF "grew up" lol" "4/28/2005 9:39:33 PM","TagFerret","Sheesh... I just realized it is creeping up on 8 pm. I gotta run, take care guys!" "4/28/2005 9:39:48 PM","partytagger","Bye" "4/28/2005 9:39:49 PM","Lazerbait","By Brian" "4/28/2005 9:39:51 PM","TagFerret","Well, "grew up" in a relative terms I guess... lol" "4/28/2005 9:40:02 PM","TagFerret","Take care guys" "4/28/2005 9:40:12 PM","Lazerbait","I am off as well" "4/28/2005 9:40:15 PM","Lazerbait","ebay time" "4/28/2005 9:40:50 PM","partytagger","Anyone left on line?" "4/28/2005 9:41:06 PM","Sinistrahd","sup everyone" "4/28/2005 9:41:08 PM","partytagger","Welcome" "4/28/2005 9:41:24 PM","partytagger","I am not sure who is here" "4/28/2005 9:41:32 PM","Sinistrahd","Just got done switching out from my first to second set of 8 ltto battery sets charging" "4/28/2005 9:41:43 PM","Sinistrahd","hi dave" "4/28/2005 9:41:44 PM","partytagger","Welcome back Dave" "4/28/2005 9:41:46 PM","Dave","I back!" "4/28/2005 9:41:55 PM","Sinistrahd","And before that I was at a Wind Ensemble" "4/28/2005 9:42:05 PM","Sinistrahd","which I now need to write about" "4/28/2005 9:42:11 PM","Sinistrahd","but not tonight methinks" "4/28/2005 9:42:21 PM","partytagger","Diversity rules" "4/28/2005 9:42:33 PM","Sinistrahd","anything interesting happen from 430 to now?" "4/28/2005 9:42:33 PM","partytagger","from wind to light" "4/28/2005 9:42:37 PM","Sinistrahd","or 630 here" "4/28/2005 9:42:48 PM","Sinistrahd","Diversity?" "4/28/2005 9:43:23 PM","Dave","ummmm........a pickle ate an onion?" "4/28/2005 9:43:26 PM","partytagger","music to laser tag indicates diverse intrests" "4/28/2005 9:43:44 PM","Sinistrahd","oh, well I also like ice cream" "4/28/2005 9:43:59 PM","Sinistrahd","but my lazer tag games will soon feature soundtracks" "4/28/2005 9:44:05 PM","Sinistrahd","so that'll be interesting" "4/28/2005 9:44:19 PM","partytagger","Pray tell more" "4/28/2005 9:44:50 PM","Sinistrahd","www.amazing1.com" "4/28/2005 9:44:53 PM","Sinistrahd","bottom right" "4/28/2005 9:45:01 PM","Sinistrahd","Wireless FM transmitters" "4/28/2005 9:45:07 PM","Sinistrahd","+ 40 gig mp3 player" "4/28/2005 9:45:28 PM","Sinistrahd","oh, and I am planning my first LARP/Scenario, Dave" "4/28/2005 9:45:37 PM","Dave","this is me eheh hi everyone" "4/28/2005 9:45:48 PM","Sinistrahd","gotta set up my LARP playlist" "4/28/2005 9:45:59 PM","Dave","I will get the dogtags out as soon as dave make the coupons" "4/28/2005 9:46:13 PM","Sinistrahd","!!!" "4/28/2005 9:46:22 PM","Sinistrahd","I have a dogtag" "4/28/2005 9:46:26 PM","Dave","coupons for rentals" "4/28/2005 9:46:31 PM","Sinistrahd","Hasn't anyone else been in here?" "4/28/2005 9:46:50 PM","Dave","don't know here is dave back ta ya all" "4/28/2005 9:47:03 PM","Sinistrahd","see you Cathie" "4/28/2005 9:47:21 PM","Dave","yep, pilot, crankymonkey, tagferret" "4/28/2005 9:47:27 PM","Dave","and flux is still lurking" "4/28/2005 9:47:30 PM","Sinistrahd","heh, tf gets a dogtag" "4/28/2005 9:47:35 PM","Sinistrahd",":P" "4/28/2005 9:47:39 PM","Dave","lol" "4/28/2005 9:47:53 PM","Dave","rules are diffrent this week" "4/28/2005 9:47:53 PM","Sinistrahd","Dave, I am setting up my first LARP/Scenario driven game" "4/28/2005 9:47:53 PM","Flux","so... did I miss anything worth scrolling back to? :)" "4/28/2005 9:48:11 PM","Dave","coo......fill me in on the details.." "4/28/2005 9:48:27 PM","Sinistrahd","OK, we're prolly gonna do this the following saturday" "4/28/2005 9:48:31 PM","Sinistrahd","last game at ISU" "4/28/2005 9:48:34 PM","Dave","flux..........ummmmmmmm.........probably not" "4/28/2005 9:48:38 PM","Sinistrahd","TAGM game" "4/28/2005 9:49:12 PM","Dave","are you teasing me on purpose........details already! ;)" "4/28/2005 9:49:13 PM","Sinistrahd","player 1 has to infiltrate the enemy base (the dorms) and grab 3 vital documents/components/whatever" "4/28/2005 9:49:29 PM","Sinistrahd","these items are on 3 separate floors" "4/28/2005 9:49:37 PM","Sinistrahd","hers how I'll work it" "4/28/2005 9:50:00 PM","Sinistrahd","floor 1: 3 opponents, 2 tags each, limited reloads" "4/28/2005 9:50:30 PM","Sinistrahd","if the player can find and extract the ducument without getting caught he doesnt have to fight" "4/28/2005 9:50:53 PM","Sinistrahd","floor 2: 3 opponents, 3 tags, unlimited ammo" "4/28/2005 9:51:30 PM","Sinistrahd","I may also differentiate by having stationary guards on the first floor, mobile fixed pattern on second, and independent on the third" "4/28/2005 9:52:06 PM","Sinistrahd","floor 3: 5 opponents, unlimited ammo + megatags, 5 tags" "4/28/2005 9:52:27 PM","Sinistrahd","guards on the last floor will also have radios" "4/28/2005 9:52:54 PM","Dave","must be nice to have gameplay on multiple floors of a big building.....I miss doing that from my AF days" "4/28/2005 9:52:58 PM","Sinistrahd","travel from floor to floor can be via stairs or elevator" "4/28/2005 9:53:16 PM","Sinistrahd","yeah, this would be way better on my training command..." "4/28/2005 9:53:22 PM","Sinistrahd","more hiding options" "4/28/2005 9:53:32 PM","Sinistrahd","but it'll be pretty cool this way" "4/28/2005 9:53:47 PM","Sinistrahd","you may have noticed my TAGM game has more than 8 opponents" "4/28/2005 9:54:20 PM","Sinistrahd","there will be pauses between floors, the player will not reset, but there will be another drone used to host new enemies each floor" "4/28/2005 9:55:01 PM","Sinistrahd","this game is heavily influenced by my favorite genesis game, Shadowrun" "4/28/2005 9:55:30 PM","Sinistrahd","in the future this game may even be more interesting" "4/28/2005 9:55:37 PM","partytagger","Also answers the reload and megatag question I was going to ask" "4/28/2005 9:55:42 PM","Sinistrahd","I plan on using it to start out next season's ISU games" "4/28/2005 9:55:56 PM","Sinistrahd","but with a major twist" "4/28/2005 9:56:11 PM","Sinistrahd","there will be 2 TAGM's, team captains" "4/28/2005 9:56:17 PM","Sinistrahd","they compete to find the document" "4/28/2005 9:56:30 PM","Sinistrahd","especially nice since P1 can shoot another gun set to P1" "4/28/2005 9:56:44 PM","Dave","you might cosider putting life guns in the game" "4/28/2005 9:56:54 PM","Sinistrahd","and the person who gets more clues has an advantage in the outdoor games" "4/28/2005 9:57:09 PM","Sinistrahd","since he will more easily be able to find the TMB hidden on the field" "4/28/2005 9:57:23 PM","Sinistrahd","life guns? ah, medic mode" "4/28/2005 9:57:27 PM","Sinistrahd","won't work" "4/28/2005 9:57:33 PM","Sinistrahd","TAGM has to be a drone" "4/28/2005 9:57:37 PM","Sinistrahd","can't do medic mode" "4/28/2005 9:58:10 PM","Dave","no...you have an extra gun or two join the game that are hidden, if the player finds them, and the gun has more life then he has, its like a life power up" "4/28/2005 9:58:26 PM","Sinistrahd","I will probably just give the player 10 or 20 tags depending on their skill level." "4/28/2005 9:58:27 PM","Dave","he can swap guns" "4/28/2005 9:58:27 PM","Sinistrahd","ah" "4/28/2005 9:58:40 PM","Sinistrahd","maybe in a game with more floors" "4/28/2005 9:59:06 PM","Sinistrahd","don't think itd be too hard to take out 11 guards with 6 of them predictable" "4/28/2005 9:59:25 PM","Sinistrahd","and the other 5 are still avoidable" "4/28/2005 9:59:41 PM","Dave","depends on how many people are on the invading team and how skilled they are" "4/28/2005 9:59:45 PM","Sinistrahd","hiding in bathroom stalls is allowed if at least a majority of the players are male" "4/28/2005 10:00:07 PM","Sinistrahd","1 invader, 2 max if the invaders compete" "4/28/2005 10:00:21 PM","Dave","I've seen 3 skilled players hold off 12 other players in 4 games in a row" "4/28/2005 10:00:33 PM","Dave","...and the larger group had a medic!" "4/28/2005 10:00:46 PM","partytagger","How many entry and exits to each floor?" "4/28/2005 10:00:46 PM","Sinistrahd","tagfest?" "4/28/2005 10:00:55 PM","Dave","yep, 2 years ago" "4/28/2005 10:00:56 PM","Sinistrahd","5" "4/28/2005 10:01:29 PM","Sinistrahd","2 outer edge stairwells, 1 central stairwell between every other floor, and 2 sets of elevators" "4/28/2005 10:01:39 PM","partytagger","How many single vantage points" "4/28/2005 10:01:40 PM","Dave","although the 3 guys had superiour weapontry too :)" "4/28/2005 10:01:55 PM","Sinistrahd","single vantage point = ?" "4/28/2005 10:02:07 PM","Dave","........and there was only 1 way into the final goal...lol" "4/28/2005 10:02:33 PM","Sinistrahd","I will quickly generate a map in paint" "4/28/2005 10:02:40 PM","Dave","Still you'd think 12 could easily overtake 3.......but nope" "4/28/2005 10:02:45 PM","partytagger","5 entry exits but how but can 2 for example be viewed from on point" "4/28/2005 10:03:27 PM","Sinistrahd","well the guards are gonna be arranged, but there are 2 actual entries from each outer stairwell, and doors between the elevators and stairs" "4/28/2005 10:03:35 PM","Sinistrahd","I'l make the map and post it quick" "4/28/2005 10:04:59 PM","partytagger","When you play indoors do you have problems with bounce / reflection?" "4/28/2005 10:06:52 PM","Dave","also, how do you deal with sensor blockage, do the gards have to kep their guns out in the open at all times?" "4/28/2005 10:08:18 PM","Sinistrahd","not in indoor mode" "4/28/2005 10:08:33 PM","Sinistrahd","havent worked that out dave" "4/28/2005 10:08:57 PM","Sinistrahd","prolly have them hold them at their sides unless they have spotted a player, then normal game rules" "4/28/2005 10:09:00 PM","Dave","okay, was just curious" "4/28/2005 10:09:15 PM","Sinistrahd","now I'll post this pic quick" "4/28/2005 10:10:35 PM","Sinistrahd","http://www.nucleardawn.us/images/other/basicmap.gif" "4/28/2005 10:10:51 PM","Sinistrahd","hmm" "4/28/2005 10:11:18 PM","Sinistrahd","http://www.nucleardawn.us/images/other/basicmap.GIF" "4/28/2005 10:11:51 PM","Sinistrahd","ok, now im typing in the box" "4/28/2005 10:11:52 PM","Sinistrahd","good" "4/28/2005 10:12:09 PM","Sinistrahd","I just lost my whole explanation to the window not highlighted void" "4/28/2005 10:12:12 PM","Sinistrahd","anyway" "4/28/2005 10:12:20 PM","Sinistrahd","2 lines through a line = door" "4/28/2005 10:12:34 PM","Sinistrahd","top and bottom areas with 2 doors = stairwells" "4/28/2005 10:12:43 PM","Sinistrahd","middle area = lounge" "4/28/2005 10:12:51 PM","Sinistrahd","circle is spiral stairs in there" "4/28/2005 10:13:01 PM","Sinistrahd","connects 6-7, 8-9 etc" "4/28/2005 10:13:11 PM","Sinistrahd","little squares are elevators" "4/28/2005 10:13:26 PM","Sinistrahd","the length from top to bottom is a little over a city block" "4/28/2005 10:13:37 PM","Sinistrahd","not drawn to scale either" "4/28/2005 10:14:25 PM","Sinistrahd","plus each floor has 2 laundry rooms, 2 garbage chute rooms, 4 cubbyholes near stairway doors, 2 bathrooms that connect left and right halls" "4/28/2005 10:14:35 PM","Sinistrahd","so one can zig-zag fairly well" "4/28/2005 10:14:51 PM","Sinistrahd","and I will have my barricades set up, too" "4/28/2005 10:15:05 PM","Dave","If you are attempting to make me envious...you have succeeded!" "4/28/2005 10:15:24 PM","Sinistrahd","sorry, just giving you the picture of the place" "4/28/2005 10:15:46 PM","Sinistrahd","btw there are 12 floors" "4/28/2005 10:15:47 PM","Sinistrahd",":P" "4/28/2005 10:16:15 PM","partytagger","Talking of barricades how are your barricades made?" "4/28/2005 10:16:16 PM","Dave","I need to find some students in the local college dorms to get into laser tag, just so I can play those kind of games again.......sigh" "4/28/2005 10:16:50 PM","Sinistrahd","2 pieces of corroplast, 4 foot by 2 foot, taped together with duct tape" "4/28/2005 10:17:01 PM","Sinistrahd","so they fold to fit in my trunk" "4/28/2005 10:17:38 PM","Dave","lol, that is probably how mine will start........super simple" "4/28/2005 10:17:42 PM","partytagger","Simple, but effective" "4/28/2005 10:18:06 PM","partytagger","How do you secure them in windy conditions" "4/28/2005 10:18:14 PM","Sinistrahd","I'm currently pricing lauan 1/8" plywood" "4/28/2005 10:18:35 PM","Sinistrahd","got some piano hinges that should work to convert my barricades to wood" "4/28/2005 10:18:40 PM","Sinistrahd","or" "4/28/2005 10:18:46 PM","Sinistrahd","the wood to barricades :P" "4/28/2005 10:18:55 PM","Sinistrahd","those will be better suited to outside" "4/28/2005 10:19:32 PM","partytagger","heavier" "4/28/2005 10:19:48 PM","Sinistrahd","exactly" "4/28/2005 10:20:00 PM","Sinistrahd","we had 43 mph gusts out here last weekend" "4/28/2005 10:20:15 PM","partytagger","Still not heavy enough for that" "4/28/2005 10:20:24 PM","Sinistrahd","no barricades up except for ones strapped to the railing of one balustrade" "4/28/2005 10:20:38 PM","Sinistrahd","with tent spikes they should be" "4/28/2005 10:21:17 PM","Sinistrahd","because with wood I can use more tension than with corroplast" "4/28/2005 10:23:41 PM","Sinistrahd","so did you have a game saturday flux?" "4/28/2005 10:24:24 PM","Flux","no." "4/28/2005 10:24:30 PM","Flux","I will next week" "4/28/2005 10:24:31 PM","Sinistrahd","I thought I recalled Brian S mentioning one" "4/28/2005 10:24:33 PM","Sinistrahd","ah" "4/28/2005 10:24:37 PM","Flux","Taz has one tomorrow though" "4/28/2005 10:24:45 PM","Flux","in Issaquah" "4/28/2005 10:25:03 PM","Dave","hmmm ......havn't seen Taz in a long time" "4/28/2005 10:25:22 PM","Dave","issaquah?" "4/28/2005 10:25:56 PM","Dave","<-------- having fun, going through a big shipment of AEG guns that came in today" "4/28/2005 10:26:06 PM","Dave","(airsoft)" "4/28/2005 10:26:23 PM","Dave","hehehehe......" "4/28/2005 10:27:32 PM","Sinistrahd","Issaquah is right off 90" "4/28/2005 10:27:52 PM","Sinistrahd","southeast of bellevue" "4/28/2005 10:30:08 PM","Dave",".......I know exactly where that is!" "4/28/2005 10:30:54 PM","Sinistrahd","sad... the satellite pic of my old rented house in port orchard still has my car parked in the driveway..." "4/28/2005 10:31:38 PM","Dave","lol......." "4/28/2005 10:32:32 PM","Sinistrahd","that whole area was so jampacked with great playing grounds" "4/28/2005 10:33:50 PM","Sinistrahd","If you ever go near Bremerton again you might want to take an exploratory party over to port orchard and check out Jackson Lund park" "4/28/2005 10:34:18 PM","Sinistrahd","it'd probably be more suited to scenario games though" "4/28/2005 10:34:34 PM","Sinistrahd","3 or 4 paths that are around 3 - 5 blocks long" "4/28/2005 10:34:40 PM","Sinistrahd","some interconnections too" "4/28/2005 10:34:52 PM","Sinistrahd","the undergrowth is pretty nasty though" "4/28/2005 10:34:58 PM","Sinistrahd","in betwen them" "4/28/2005 10:35:11 PM","Sinistrahd","but there are some nice clearings" "4/28/2005 10:35:21 PM","Dave","Sounds like our leaburg park" "4/28/2005 10:35:33 PM","Sinistrahd","Im gonna get going, I have classes tomorrow" "4/28/2005 10:35:35 PM","Dave","unfortunately, no one around here is into lasertag.......sigh" "4/28/2005 10:35:43 PM","Dave","DAVE!!!!!!" "4/28/2005 10:35:46 PM","Sinistrahd","gotta get them into it" "4/28/2005 10:35:50 PM","wsdave","Dave!!!" "4/28/2005 10:36:04 PM","Sinistrahd","use signs at the local grocery stores, barber shops, whatever" "4/28/2005 10:36:10 PM","Sinistrahd","Daves?" "4/28/2005 10:36:24 PM","wsdave","Never have too many Daves" "4/28/2005 10:36:25 PM","Dave","YES! we be a tribe!" "4/28/2005 10:36:26 PM","Dave","lol" "4/28/2005 10:36:32 PM","Sinistrahd","well, goodnight" "4/28/2005 10:36:36 PM","wsdave","How are things?" "4/28/2005 10:36:43 PM","Dave","going great" "4/28/2005 10:36:49 PM","Dave",".......night Sinistrahd" "4/28/2005 10:36:58 PM","wsdave","Nighty night" "4/28/2005 10:37:03 PM","Dave","(guess he couldn't handle multiple daves)" "4/28/2005 10:37:05 PM","Dave","lol" "4/28/2005 10:37:37 PM","wsdave","My wife can't either, that's why there's only me. Right honey....honey?" "4/28/2005 10:37:44 PM","Dave","Hey Dave.....keep an eye on your mailbox, there is a package on its way to you" "4/28/2005 10:38:08 PM","wsdave","Suprise? Or can you tell me..." "4/28/2005 10:38:12 PM","Dave","lol........Cathie said "AMEN"" "4/28/2005 10:38:21 PM","Dave","nope......tis a suprise......" "4/28/2005 10:38:47 PM","Dave","Just a little token of our appreciation for the effort you put into TagFest" "4/28/2005 10:38:49 PM","wsdave","Ok, looking forward to it. By the way, i think I left a pair of shoes at the park." "4/28/2005 10:39:03 PM","Dave","AH.........the shoe man!" "4/28/2005 10:39:07 PM","wsdave","That's sweet. Thank you." "4/28/2005 10:39:21 PM","wsdave","That's me." "4/28/2005 10:39:25 PM","Dave","We have them" "4/28/2005 10:39:48 PM","wsdave","We're coming down in the next month or so, can we stop in?" "4/28/2005 10:40:02 PM","Dave","CAth just informed me the package that I informed you of hasn't been shipped yet, so we will add shoage" "4/28/2005 10:40:23 PM","Dave","Sure!......just let us know at least a day in advance......." "4/28/2005 10:40:38 PM","wsdave","Cool!!! I'll be happy to make it up to you guys. Dinner on me?" "4/28/2005 10:41:14 PM","Dave","Well, eating off of another person's body is a bit morbid, but if you want dinner on you ......so be it!" "4/28/2005 10:41:38 PM","wsdave","It's like a collage date...." "4/28/2005 10:41:44 PM","Dave","lol" "4/28/2005 10:41:48 PM","wsdave","Or was that just me...?" "4/28/2005 10:42:33 PM","Dave","I just hope that we still have a house.....planning on selling this one...but as much as our realator would like it too, I don't think it will be ready for sale that soon..." "4/28/2005 10:43:18 PM","Dave","at this point nothing is certain though....but one way or the other...you will be well recieved" "4/28/2005 10:43:19 PM","wsdave","We'll find you where ever you end up. I've got an idea for the new blaster. Is the design final, or still malliable?" "4/28/2005 10:44:07 PM","Dave","lol.....I think Brian would shoot anyone who even mentions a change to the new blaster...he has been working on changes all this week" "4/28/2005 10:44:25 PM","wsdave","Yeah, but mine are cool changes..." "4/28/2005 10:44:43 PM","Dave","lol......." "4/28/2005 10:44:45 PM","wsdave","Care to hear the idea?" "4/28/2005 10:44:51 PM","Dave","go for it......." "4/28/2005 10:44:58 PM","Dave","brian will read the transcript later" "4/28/2005 10:45:37 PM","wsdave","Ok. Did you see the HUD mod that I did to the Deluxe, by putting the lights near the sight on the tagger?" "4/28/2005 10:45:53 PM","Dave","I think I saw that one" "4/28/2005 10:46:47 PM","wsdave","Well, I've cleaned it up and added a sight (rumble pack, thanks Wayne). The whole thing looks really clean and works great." "4/28/2005 10:47:32 PM","Dave","hey, speak of the devil......." "4/28/2005 10:47:37 PM","wsdave","What I've found is that if 3 LEDs could be added to the Blaster that give the same HUD info, it would make it really easy to tell what's happening." "4/28/2005 10:47:37 PM","Dave","er um angel...." "4/28/2005 10:47:47 PM","Cathie","puter is up and running like normal and all the software is reinstalled now" "4/28/2005 10:47:57 PM","wsdave","You're in trouble, mister..." "4/28/2005 10:48:10 PM","Cathie","watch your email now" "4/28/2005 10:48:22 PM","wsdave","Hi, Cath...how'er you?" "4/28/2005 10:48:25 PM","Cathie","hello everyone our there" "4/28/2005 10:48:33 PM","Cathie","hello person missing shoes" "4/28/2005 10:48:36 PM","Dave","I think someone mentioned that idea......." "4/28/2005 10:48:36 PM","partytagger","hi" "4/28/2005 10:49:15 PM","wsdave","I can take some pix when I mod my other Deluxe, if you want to post them..." "4/28/2005 10:49:18 PM","Cathie","doint good wsdave now that the puter is fixed again" "4/28/2005 10:49:23 PM","Dave","At this point the physical design isfor the most part set...Brian has been working on the code and lenses" "4/28/2005 10:49:39 PM","Dave","<-------broke the puter" "4/28/2005 10:49:40 PM","wsdave","I hear that. I need to do a major re-install myself." "4/28/2005 10:50:01 PM","Cathie","wsdave i was going to post missing with an image of the shoes on the web" "4/28/2005 10:50:07 PM","wsdave","Well, tell him to stop and add LEDs..." "4/28/2005 10:50:23 PM","wsdave","Thank you for collecting them." "4/28/2005 10:50:28 PM","Cathie","dave said i told the wrong person" "4/28/2005 10:50:41 PM","Cathie","he is not the one that needed to be told" "4/28/2005 10:50:45 PM","Dave","lol......like I carry any weight in that decision ....but okay.....lol" "4/28/2005 10:51:05 PM","Cathie","dave what is with the clock at the bottom" "4/28/2005 10:51:22 PM","wsdave","You're a bigger man than you know, Dave...or something like that..." "4/28/2005 10:51:46 PM","Cathie","yes and he needs to loose some of it as well as i do" "4/28/2005 10:51:49 PM","Dave","lol.....maybe in the wasitline....." "4/28/2005 10:52:06 PM","wsdave","I wasn't gonna go there" "4/28/2005 10:52:16 PM","Cathie","tahts ok we did" "4/28/2005 10:52:22 PM","Dave","......lol....you didn't have to...its pretty obvious....lol" "4/28/2005 10:52:31 PM","partytagger","Night everyone, past my bed time" "4/28/2005 10:52:40 PM","Dave","nite party tagger......." "4/28/2005 10:53:07 PM","Cathie","nite party tagger going out to party" "4/28/2005 10:53:16 PM","wsdave","My mod only takes about 1 hour and a screwdriver (plus a small drill bit if you really want to make it look nice)" "4/28/2005 10:53:30 PM","Dave","wow..........its almost 9;)?!?!?!?!?!?!!" "4/28/2005 10:53:34 PM","Dave","where did the day go" "4/28/2005 10:53:45 PM","Cathie","i don't have to work tommarow heheh" "4/28/2005 10:53:49 PM","wsdave","Time flies when there's a clock on your screen..." "4/28/2005 10:53:59 PM","Dave","lol" "4/28/2005 10:54:04 PM","Cathie","but i work sat." "4/28/2005 10:54:07 PM","Dave","especially one without numbers" "4/28/2005 10:54:30 PM","wsdave","I was wondering if you forgot how to count..." "4/28/2005 10:54:31 PM","Dave","...or at least that is what cathie says" "4/28/2005 10:54:54 PM","Cathie","so were did flux and audiodave go" "4/28/2005 10:54:59 PM","Dave","count........what is that?" "4/28/2005 10:55:50 PM","Cathie","the clock is so noone will get into trouble with the boss" "4/28/2005 10:56:03 PM","wsdave","My buddy Chris (who you met at the Fest) is about to pick up a deluxe set, so we'll have 7 taggers to assault Microsoft with..." "4/28/2005 10:56:21 PM","Cathie","well.....this clock will never be stolen because everyone is always watching it" "4/28/2005 10:56:39 PM","Dave","if you need some more gear for a day or two, just let me know" "4/28/2005 10:56:44 PM","wsdave","This is gonna be a great summer...." "4/28/2005 10:56:51 PM","Dave","yeppers" "4/28/2005 10:57:18 PM","wsdave","We're gonna try to convince 'em all to buy there own (how ya gonna beat $20?)..." "4/28/2005 10:57:18 PM","Dave","hey, that was the best use of the boo yet!" "4/28/2005 10:57:46 PM","wsdave","That's cause it's the worst joke yet..." "4/28/2005 10:57:49 PM","Cathie","Hay!!!! ....I like that saying" "4/28/2005 10:58:15 PM","Cathie","it wasn't a joke it was a good saying" "4/28/2005 10:58:27 PM","Dave","<---- is not going to comment, to spare his arm from turning black and blue......lol" "4/28/2005 10:58:57 PM","wsdave","Dave, you need a "Luv ya" audio..." "4/28/2005 10:59:05 PM","Cathie","dave don't chock over it" "4/28/2005 10:59:09 PM","Dave","damn.....got hit anyway........." "4/28/2005 10:59:32 PM","Cathie","yes i'll go with that\" "4/28/2005 10:59:34 PM","Dave","okay, I'll work on that audio ;)" "4/28/2005 10:59:39 PM","wsdave","Ooh, I have a baby drooling on my head..." "4/28/2005 11:00:22 PM","Cathie","ehheeh i miss them but then I'm glad mine are all growed up and gone so I havd dave all to myself" "4/28/2005 11:00:44 PM","wsdave","Cassandra says "Gaaaa", Debby says hello..." "4/28/2005 11:00:52 PM","Cathie","post a picture of the wee one so i can see" "4/28/2005 11:01:07 PM","wsdave","How do I post?" "4/28/2005 11:01:11 PM","Dave","aw man.......now I have a mental image of this BLOB of baby drool running down your head...........not a very inviting image" "4/28/2005 11:01:21 PM","Cathie","hello debby and gaaaa to cassandra" "4/28/2005 11:01:28 PM","wsdave","That's about what it looks like, too." "4/28/2005 11:01:43 PM","Dave","just upload it to the 1SLT photo albumn" "4/28/2005 11:02:21 PM","wsdave","Okay, I'll do the same with the mod pix, and you can place them in the mod area..." "4/28/2005 11:02:55 PM","Dave","hehehe.....we will use the photo image for the next......Who S Who in laser tag......lol" "4/28/2005 11:03:01 PM","Cathie","I don't think ath cassandra will fix in with the mod pix do you unless she is holding it" "4/28/2005 11:03:08 PM","Dave","Mod area.........great idea!" "4/28/2005 11:03:31 PM","Cathie","ok education on mod what is a mod?" "4/28/2005 11:04:09 PM","wsdave","lol. I'll get a shot of her holding a tagger. I'm getting called to late dinner, and "happy wife, happy life"." "4/28/2005 11:04:11 PM","Dave","Mod = Modification" "4/28/2005 11:04:16 PM","Cathie","dave do you like this Icon for me" "4/28/2005 11:04:31 PM","Dave","nite Dave......look forward to thos pics" "4/28/2005 11:04:35 PM","wsdave","Thx Dave." "4/28/2005 11:04:49 PM","wsdave","I'll leave you with my favorite saying...." "4/28/2005 11:04:51 PM","Cathie","by dave what s for dinner i'm hungry" "4/28/2005 11:05:08 PM","Dave","I'm going to have to adjust the shutdown time for this session to 900pm, 9:30 is just too late" "4/28/2005 11:05:33 PM","wsdave",""The only thing that changed was my attitude, but that changed everything." ---David Rimple" "4/28/2005 11:05:56 PM","wsdave","Dinner is Mac and Cheese with Pepperoni in it." "4/28/2005 11:06:21 PM","Cathie","hummm I'll be right there hemmeem too far to go" "4/28/2005 11:06:30 PM","Cathie","email me some" "4/28/2005 11:06:32 PM","wsdave","I'll mail you some..." "4/28/2005 11:06:45 PM","Cathie","goodnite" "4/28/2005 11:07:01 PM","wsdave","Night all, good talking with you again..." "4/28/2005 11:25:27 PM","Flux","man, I wish I was able to keep up with this chat. looks like lots of people came in and out" "4/28/2005 11:26:18 PM","Cathie","I'm still here and so is dave" "4/28/2005 11:26:39 PM","Cathie","were have you been" "4/28/2005 11:27:04 PM","Cathie","audiodave is at work and not here" "4/28/2005 11:27:18 PM","Cathie","audiodave is a ghost of dave" "4/28/2005 11:28:12 PM","Flux","glad I'm not wearing my headset" "4/28/2005 11:28:36 PM","Cathie","why woud you get woke up" "4/28/2005 11:29:21 PM","Flux","no. 'cus they're annoying" "4/28/2005 11:29:41 PM","Flux","when played consecutively like that, anyway" "4/28/2005 11:29:44 PM","Cathie","we use them to wake up people on the web" "4/28/2005 11:30:05 PM","Cathie","that is how dave and i play hehe"